Sonic Meet 2010!

[bmwzoom]

Maybe if it were a "Mazda" meet, then more people would show up...there is a difference in what car enthusiasts are "enthused" about. There's a reason why we don't get muscle car guys to out meets, or super cars, cause they could give two shits about mazdas, or imports for that matter.

It seems to me there's a reason why mazdas don't show up to a vw meet and no matter how hard one tries to make it seem different, that won't change. Promote Mazda meets (and show up to the MAZDA meets) and maybe there would be a better turn out.

Alright Tbot. Lets work this out since you seem to be hating on me so much right now. First, this Sonic meet was originally the Hamburger Stand meet about three years ago. It started there and ended up moving to a few different locations. If anyone was able to attend that particular location off Union they would understand that it is a meet for all makes and models regardless of age, race, sex, etc. It moved down south to the DTC for a while, also inviting each and every car make and model if so desired. Now that the customer complaints rolled in the DTC Sonic is no longer an option, thus moving the new Sunday night Sonic meet location to Lakewood of Alameda. Again, any car is welcomed, yes even you Tbot. To be honest, imports make up about 75% of the cars that show up on Sundays so youre right, muscle cars dont always show. But Mazdas can be considered an import car, I consider my MS3 and import.

I attend VW meets because for 2 years I did try to make MAZDA specific events occur. At which time, about 8 months ago, I came to the realization that most CMZC members werent interested in MAZDA specific events or just werent able to make it out. Thus, I moved into a Euro scene. In addition Metrodubs has always been a sister club to CMZC from its conception and I was welcomed with open arms as I moved to their meets. They have three meets during the week; a dinner on Wednesday, a MD specific meet on Saturday and then the Sunday Sonic they attend along side many other cars. They could care less that I drive a Mazda and are quite impressed with my little beast.

You ask to promote MAZDA meets? This thread is EXACTLY that. Bring the Mazdas out with the other enthusiasts who drive Honda, Infiniti, Nissan, Lexus, Acura, Toyota, Lamborghini, Ferrari, Chevy, etc.

You know what I tried to do for this club and me reviving this thread was my attempt to give new and old members an opportunity to make it out to a meet, something a Moderator should be doing.

[tbot]

i remember the old sonic meets, i also remember the kind of people that showed up, none of that is the same. and ur promoting a vw meet to mazdas, not a mazda meet to mazdas, there is a difference.

and no offense, if they're impressed with ur "beast" they have no clue whats really going on in the disi world.

i'd be more than happy to show up to meets that have quality people like the old days, but that isn't going to happen. there needs to be a drastic change in order for people to start coming out again, and quite frankly, it ain't gunna happen with anyone driving a speed that truely knows whats going on due to its massive limitations as they arent that impressive at this time.

and if you're going to talk about moderators promoting things maybe they should attend the annual get togethers we have planned for months, instead of some weekly, worn out, get together, then again, its like i originally said, its about what people are truely "enthused" about, which again isn't these meets.

[bmwzoom]

i remember the old sonic meets, i also remember the kind of people that showed up, none of that is the same. and ur promoting a vw meet to mazdas, not a mazda meet to mazdas, there is a difference.

and no offense, if they're impressed with ur "beast" they have no clue whats really going on in the disi world.

i'd be more than happy to show up to meets that have quality people like the old days, but that isn't going to happen. there needs to be a drastic change in order for people to start coming out again, and quite frankly, it ain't gunna happen with anyone driving a speed that truely knows whats going on due to its massive limitations as they arent that impressive at this time.

and if you're going to talk about moderators promoting things maybe they should attend the annual get togethers we have planned for months, instead of some weekly, worn out, get together, then again, its like i originally said, its about what people are truely "enthused" about, which again isn't these meets.

You have no clue what I was doing Saturday so dont preach to me about attending events. Like others I was unable to attend. Period. If this is how you feel about Mazda, sell yours, since you are less than pleased with your ride as you stated above. Personally I love my car and love the people I hang out with. Quality people exist, you have to be willing to open up to them. Tbot seriously, if you hate this Sonic meet this much, just don't look at the thread

[Justin]

Tbot, I've been to this meet plenty of times. Bree isn't inviting you to a VW meet, she just happens to know a bunch of the VW people and hangs out with them because the Mazda turnout isn't so hot. This would be a Mazda meet too if Mazdas showed up. I get the sense that making this more Mazda-centric is what Bree is trying to accomplish.

[tbot]

I never said I was displeased with my car in any way, don't put words in my mouth. I was just stating that the disi platform is nothing worth writing home about when compared to other manufacturers and their capabilities.

And Justin, if she wants to hang out with the VW people, then thats fine, promote it to the VW people. All I was saying if she wants a greater turn out from the people on this forum then somethings going to have to change, and this isn't it. I know me personally as well as a lot of others would like to see Mazdas, its as simple as that. And just cause she's the only Mazda (or one of two) that shows up to this thing doesn't make her all that special as she keeps making it out to be. If she wants to act like that, do it when there is an actual high turn out from this forum/club, then I think that would be a damn good basis for bragging rights.

[bmwzoom]

I never said I was displeased with my car in any way, don't put words in my mouth. I was just stating that the disi platform is nothing worth writing home about when compared to other manufacturers and their capabilities.

And Justin, if she wants to hang out with the VW people, then thats fine, promote it to the VW people. All I was saying if she wants a greater turn out from the people on this forum then somethings going to have to change, and this isn't it. I know me personally as well as a lot of others would like to see Mazdas, its as simple as that. And just cause she's the only Mazda (or one of two) that shows up to this thing doesn't make her all that special as she keeps making it out to be. If she wants to act like that, do it when there is an actual high turn out from this forum/club, then I think that would be a damn good basis for bragging rights.

I have a feeling that you are misinterpreting my original message. I posted on here to inform members of CMZC of one meet that has potential for more Mazda owners to attend. In no way was I "bragging" about being one of the few Mazdas. If anything I was stating to tell people that it would be nice to see more. In addition, I'm not attempting to change CMZC, that's not my job and I don't have energy to do so. If CMZC members want more Mazda specific events, go for it! CMZC would encourage it I'm sure! My post was to revive an old meet where several CMZC members did attend in the past. This has nothing to do with VWs or any other make. This was an invintation, take it or leave it.

[tbot]

Perception is everything...maybe a better choice of words would be in order then.

[bmwzoom]

Perception is everything...maybe a better choice of words would be in order then.

Dooley noted. I'm glad we cleared that up

[TheNewBlack]

It's just shitty that our only meets we get invited to are vw club events, No offense to bree because I know these people are your friends, but they know nothing about mazdas, drive like assholes and don't even say hey to me when I show up at these so I'm over it. There were better days as far as CMZC interest goes, but I don't think that's over. I just think we need to do our own thing, not piggyback on some other club. I do appreciate your work for the club bree, and in no way am trying to put you down, just my 2 cents on the situation.

[Renesis Rx]

Gonna throw my 2 cents in and probably get blasted but here goes....first I live in the Springs and know nothing about the Denver area scene...but if Bree is trying to encourage people to come out to a car meet that is already established and it's not happening, why even try to set one up in a new location specific to Mazda? Nobody would attend that either. Gotta crawl, walk, run ya know. When she's saying she was one of two or three, she's encouraging others to come not brag about it. In my two years I've seen CMZC go from a club that held meets and shows and attended stuff together to a place online for people to come bitch about stuff or fight with eachother. My opinion is because there is no clear cut leadership. Yup...clubs have Presidents and Vice-Presidents, Treasurers, Event Coordinators, membership dues, laws and rules of being a member. We have none of that. I think each Section (Springs Area, Denver Area, NoCo/Wyo Area) all need to have elected officials with one being supreme leader of all things CMZC. Kinda like the Pres and House of Reps...it works for a country it could work for a club. Each member pays dues...like taxes...see where I'm going with this.?. That will weed out the ones who really aren't here for the club...just here to post shit on the forum. That's the only way I see this changing and really becoming a club. Not setting up a new meet at a new place. Ok blast away...

[TheNewBlack]

It's definitely a leadership issue. Most of our mods don't really do anything effective besides 2 or 3. People aren't very motivated anymore, if your too busy to care pass it along to someone who does. People in Denver know I show up for most Mazda specific events, I'm not into the whole 200 hondas at sonic scene, I'd rather just see 5 or 6 mazdas and the people I'm friends with on this forum.

[tbot]

Randy thats where I'm at as well.

And Renesis, back in the day we used to have people come from the springs up here to meet with us. Times have changed tho and I think a lot of people have lost interest is all, and like Randy, we don't want to meet w/ others due to whatever stereotypical characteristics they have.

If we just had the quality people that showed up like before even once a month, this would be a lot different. Instead of focusing on a weekly deal, look at something larger, thats more unique/rare (due to its re-occurrence) and push that. A lot of people are busy and aren't on the forums enough to check whats going on EVERY WEEK. Send out personal texts or something, not mass messages, have those you contact reach out to the people you might not have contact info for. I know if I get an invitation from say...3-4 people for a get together, then I have a better chance of showing because I know there's actually some interest.

[Renesis Rx]

All is very true. But I feel the lack of interest is due in large part to the lack of real elected and acting leadership as mentioned. Not taking a shot at any moderator here, but really how is a mod viewed. It's someone who keeps the board inline and stuff. And when anyone and everyone is a part of a mazda club (meaning those with Subis, VWs, Hondas, etc....) it no longer is a MAZDA club. It's a bunch of people with cars. Like the fools Crushin Game down here. "Hey you got cool rims..ur in the club buddy." That's almost what it's getting to here. Does a Mustang club allow a guy who used to have a Mustang but sold it and bought a Camaro still be in the club, probably not. I understand that this club was created as a place for Maz enthusiasts to come together, but the key words there are Mazda Enthusiasts, not anyone in the state that owns a Mazda or just likes em a bunch and drives a Honda. Ya gotta get controll on it at some point. You mention quality people a few times. That won't really happen as long as this place is wide the F open. If this is a "Mazda Club" then it needs to take on the persona of a club. If it's a Mazda forum...don't expect to get much turn out.

[bmwzoom]

I don't understand why Randy and Tbot think this is about VWs. I am the one who hang out with them. If you don't want to, don't join me. This thread is for a Sonic meet that has several different makes. If that's not your scene that's fine, don't show....perhaps others would be interested in attending.

As far as leadership in this club, I stopped planning events because no one would respond to my texts or show up to meets. If Mazda owners don't come to meets, meets are going to disappear. Plain and simple. If Tbot and Randy and others would like to have more Mazda specific events, go for it! Plan them, do it, make it happen and stop complaining about me offering a meet to CMZC that just so happens to have other cars there.

[tbot]

all we're saying is stop posting about vw meets on a mazda board, post in an applicable forum.

and u must have missed me saying a mass text doesn't cut it, have multiple ppl text ppl to show interest, make it personable.