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S4poor · Postby **S4poor** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:14

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MS3_Mafia @ Mar 21 2008, 01:51 PM) [url=index.php?act=findpost&pid=34489]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div>

I'll line up with you guys from a roll. And when the SRT4 beats me, then so be it... at least I'll still be in second. [/b]

Let the shit talkin' begin ;-)

MS3_Mafia · Postby **MS3_Mafia** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:14

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RMSpeed6 @ Mar 21 2008, 01:59 PM) [url=index.php?act=findpost&pid=34491]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div>

Let the shit talkin' begin ;-)[/b]

Honestly a Speed6 has no chance against a Speed3 from a roll... trust me.

SpeedRacer · Postby **SpeedRacer** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:14

very true..

Colombia28 · Postby **Colombia28** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:14

Not just randomly challenging people. You can ask the others im not one for street racing. It was more a joke but i am curious as to how bad an MS3 would lose.

tsx_guy · Postby **tsx_guy** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:14

depends whose got the skillz....should we setup some time at Bandi?

Colombia28 · Postby **Colombia28** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:14

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (6i_guy @ Mar 22 2008, 04:01 PM) [url=index.php?act=findpost&pid=34638]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div>

depends whose got the skillz....should we setup some time at Bandi?[/b]

Heck yeah! If he wants to im cool with a little bandi action.

MS3_Mafia · Postby **MS3_Mafia** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:14

Much closer than you think Andrew...

Road & Track, February 2008 did a comparison of the Dodge SRT4 vs. Mazdaspeed3

1/4 Mile Times:
Dodge SRT4 14.6@100.3mph
Mazdaspeed3 14.5@96.4mph

Curb Weight:
Dodge SRT4 3225 lb.
Mazdaspeed3 3180 lb.

So it obviously comes down to a Drivers race.

SpeedRacer · Postby **SpeedRacer** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:14

I'll race the SRT4

Crypto · Postby **Crypto** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:14

Wow this has gotten pretty crazy. I guess I had that coming when posting a non Mazda on this forum. We'll see about this racing stuff come summer when I have a few more miles on the car.

I appreciate everyones feedback and am game to all the harassment and smack talking, long as you can take it as well. At least most of you did some number research instead of just hating, that says a lot about a mature group. Thus far I really like the car and it is very quick. I have some traction bars coming this week that are supposed to really help with the torque steer and wheel hop. Much like the aftermarket motor mounts in the speed. After that it'll be a cold air intake and then who knows what.

I get my tint this week too so I'll post up new pictures once that's been done.

Peas

RX-7drifter · Postby **RX-7drifter** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:14

welcome aboard

LM · Postby LM » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:14

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MS3_Mafia @ Mar 22 2008, 03:11 AM) [url=index.php?act=findpost&pid=34593]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div>

:D Honestly a Speed6 has no chance against a Speed3 from a roll... trust me.[/b]

Yup...had my ass handed to me on platter by Jack many a time....

How did Firestoned fair against you the other week?

SpeedRacer · Postby **SpeedRacer** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:14

Real question is how Patrick and Rich deal with Speed3's... I'd be interested in seeing that.

arctic_blue83 · Postby **arctic_blue83** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:14

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MS3_Mafia @ Mar 22 2008, 06:14 PM) [url=index.php?act=findpost&pid=34692]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div>

Much closer than you think Andrew...

Road & Track, February 2008 did a comparison of the Dodge SRT4 vs. Mazdaspeed3

1/4 Mile Times:
Dodge SRT4 14.6@100.3mph
Mazdaspeed3 14.5@96.4mph

Curb Weight:
Dodge SRT4 3225 lb.
Mazdaspeed3 3180 lb.

So it obviously comes down to a Drivers race.[/b]

I don't know Jack, look at the trap speeds.... it's obvious R&T probably pulled a better 60 ft time in the Speed3, most likely due to the fact the Speed3 has a LSD (SRT-4 has an open front diff IIRC), combined with Mazda's outstanding torque management system in 1st & 2nd gears. The SRT-4 has an advantage of almost 4mph in trap speeds, which to me, suggests, at freeway speeds, there's a good chance it will pull lol.

Hmmm.... Speed3 vs Speed6 vs Caliber SRT-4.... maybe I should throw the newly "Stage 1" STI into the mix

Although, I would prefer running at Bandi, not only because it's legal, but also due to my cheater ass AWD giving a big advantage from a stop lol. Although I don't think I would need it lol, as here were Road and Tracks results for the STI:

Road and Track from June 2003 (Last time they ran a VF39 powered STI):
WRX STi 13.3@103.0mph

^^^That's stock... she's now making an extra 20hp & 45 ft lb of torque according to Cobb... Dig. Roll. Whatever haha.

Although in the Mazdaspeed3's defense, Road and Track ran a faster time with it in their December 2006 issue.

Road and Track December 2006:
Mazdaspeed 3 14.3@99.3mph

So maybe they just had a slower car for their last comparo, or the ECU wasn't happy and was pulling timing?!? Either way, should be a good run Speed3 vs Caliber SRT-4.

The fastest stock times I could find for either over on Dragtimes.com were:

Mazdaspeed3:
14.010@101.020
14.410@99.010

Caliber SRT-4:
14.240@100.300
14.410@103.020

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mazda--3-Drag-Racing.html
http://www.dragtimes.com/Dodge--Caliber-SR...rag-Racing.html

If the Speed3's turbo attempted to push extra boost at altitude, I would say it would be one hell of a close race, but then again, Jack's car has a couple minor mods, so now I'm really curious... you guys should run 'em lol.

On another note, I had no idea that Speed3's have made it into the 12's, and what's more, on the stock K04!! That's awesome! What's more, that toolbag Laloosh was able to trap at 111mph with just the CPE CAI, full turboback exhaust, CP-E Standback (pushing 18psi untuned) and ProtegeGarage fuel pump... that's badass!! You can really see the potential of the 2.3L DISI motor, as most port injection, full weight 4 cylinder's running a K04 can't touch 111mph with bolt-ons. I guess the claimed extra 10% torque due to the cooling properties of Direct Injection, combined with the 9.5:1 compression ratio stock, make for a potent little motor. Hats off to Mazda.

Honestly, I prefer the sound of the flat 4, but will never deny the potential of the DISI motor. The only reason IMO, that Mazdaspeed 3/6's aren't running the same times as EVO/STI's, is due to their lack of aftermarket support in comparison. Mazda has never really been a "tuner" car, so the aftermarket is slow to cater to them... it sucks that Mazda only does limited production numbers for their Mazdaspeeds, as I would like to see what people could get out of them on built motors, race gas and a GT35

SpeedRacer · Postby **SpeedRacer** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:14

Dont forget about my 14.030 run up here

arctic_blue83 · Postby **arctic_blue83** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:14

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SpeedRacer @ Mar 23 2008, 05:14 PM) [url=index.php?act=findpost&pid=34915]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div>

Dont forget about my 14.030 run up here [/b]

I said STOCK lol, not your CAI/DP/TP/BOV/TMIC/EMS pass lol. Speaking of which, when are you going to quit with the sissy visual mods and take back the title of most powerful Speed3 in the state? LOL, jk, the car looks good man, but now I think she needs the power to back up the sportier look. What are you going to be doing powerwise this time around?

BTW, handling wise, how does the car feel with the Cobb springs? Does it hit bump stops corning hard or any negatives?

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