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Postby ecam8000 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:14

Dange wrote:6. and ecam. which 1911 do you have. a 1911 with a 15+1 config seems like the best of both worlds.


I have a few. 3 Colts (1918, 1945 and an early 50's Commander), 3 Kimbers (two full size one 4") a S&W 1911 and working on a Sig version. I've owned and traded several others. That 15 rd is a Para 14.45 http://www.para-usa.com/new/product_pistol.php?id=11 14+1. They sell these as packages to PD's and other organizations engraved with logos. Mine was a group buy with Englewood P.D. It came with a rail and light, so it's a bit much for concealed work. The rest of my .45's include wheel guns and various autos.

That picture in the link looks like the one I bought, except for the rail and the engraving. I liked the siver/black. Grip is bulkier than a std. 1911, but not as much as I thought.
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Deterrent or target?

Postby WINGSPD » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:14

Dange, You mentioned that you didn't like the concept of the concealed carry and felt that open carry worked as a deterrent. You appear to have a military background, and have experienced that open carry is a deterrent to those who perceive that you are likely to have armed backup close by. But for the average criminal, not in a war zone, the "open carry guy" is the guy you immediately shoot in the back of the head and take his nice open carry weapon. You have lost the element of suprise which is the beauty of the concealed carry. (Not a target, but not defenseless either.) You also make the "sheeple" jittery with open carry, and I guarantee some asshat will call you out on it and others will report you for scaring them.
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Postby geo2maz » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:14

are you all under attack? why all the guns? bazooka's work better if its that bad. cant imagine you all live in aurora. a-town holla'!
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Postby alex_n/a » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:14

geo2maz wrote:are you all under attack? why all the guns? bazooka's work better if its that bad. cant imagine you all live in aurora. a-town holla'!


I think this explains the need for guns.

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Postby mOOsE » Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:14

WINGSPD wrote: I guarantee some asshat will call you out on it and others will report you for scaring them.


This x148284829563

It will happen. Legally your fine, but OC will mean that you get to know the local PD
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Postby Dange » Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:14

yeah i grew up around weapons. and in arizona where open carry is a normal situation. at least 3-4 out of 10 people used to open carry. now that you dont need a permit to conceal carry. most those people now just conceal. my dad was never a gun person but my uncles and grandpa were. and we used to go out shooting. and he would only really carry on trips.

and yes most my background is MOSTLY military and some law enforcement. and every time i have ever seen some robbery tape as soon as the robber sees a gun hes in a damn hurry to get out of there.

and for ccw. i cant imagine the recoil from a subcompact .45acp maybe a .40 would be manageable but still would be hard for quick grouping. ive shot all kinds of rounds. but never something that big in a weapon that small.
I could deal with a 1911 in .45 because of the weight and thats what the 1911 was designed for. as long as i had a high capacity.
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Postby mOOsE » Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:14

Dange wrote:
and for ccw. i cant imagine the recoil from a subcompact .45acp maybe a .40 would be manageable but still would be hard for quick grouping. ive shot all kinds of rounds. but never something that big in a weapon that small.
I could deal with a 1911 in .45 because of the weight and thats what the 1911 was designed for. as long as i had a high capacity.


indeed. My 380 hurts my hand more than a .357 magnum, no joke.
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Postby BRC » Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:14

you could always get one of these... i love mine...

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Postby geo2maz » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:14

who here is from Jersey?!

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Postby kingtut » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:14

geo2maz wrote:are you all under attack? why all the guns? bazooka's work better if its that bad. cant imagine you all live in aurora. a-town holla'!


It appears we have an unarmed member. I'd protect you, but unfortunately don't reside in A-town.

geo2maz wrote:who here is from Jersey?!

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I know of one:D
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Postby mog1017 » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:14

I agree with the Springfield Armory votes. My duty weapon is an XD9 service, carry is an XD9 Subcompact. I used an M9 too for eight years. I would never go back. But thats just me...
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Postby geo2maz » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:14

kingtut wrote:It appears we have an unarmed member. I'd protect you, but unfortunately don't reside in A-town.


when i turned 18 i got excited and bought a shotgun, had it for 7-years and never shot it once so i sold it :), did learn how to shoot at 15 w an army friend in the El Paso desert...omg almost 15 years ago, :eek:
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