What grinds your gears?

[Learjet45]

If everyone was as homo as that comment just was Erod, then there wouldn't be any kids to abort.

[D Walker]

The big factor in all of this is continued government funding for Planned Parenthood. The left says the right wants to cut women's health services, the right says the left wants the government to pay for abortions. They both word it in a way that they will get more support for their side.

The problem is, we all have things funded by our tax dollars that we don't agree with. Unfortunately, there's no possible way for everybody to agree on what should be funded and what shouldn't be. We all have different views on how the government should be run, but the main thing is that people have to compromise. Right now both sides are not budging or willing to give up anything. They need to quit being stubborn and do their damn jobs and get this thing hashed out. If they can't work together with people of differing views they should never have been elected in the first place, since that's the entire point of having government officials.

No. The big factor is the government CANNOT PAY FOR IT. Doesntmatter if it is womens services, Midnight Basketball, or social security, there is only so much money and we just cant pay for it. Nothing against those who want to have abortions, nothing against those who want to hang out in the parks, do drugs and play basketball while our tax dollars keeps the lights on, its just simply there is no money. Seriously, its not hard. The checkbook is empty. There is no other source of income. If the moeny frees up, great! Have all the abortions you want. Have a weekly planned parenthood town hall meeting for all I care, but until there is money to make it happen IT CANT EXIST. Nothing to debate because WE CANT AFFORD IT.

Damned, I think half the country slept through or skipped basic economics, and it is no wonder 90% of the US citizens cannot take care of themselves, they have no idea about how to live within thier means.

[speedjunkie]

I find it ridiculous that a bunch of grown men and women can't work out issues over Planned Parenthood. I still think that the entire abortion issue should just be dropped. If a woman doesn't want a kid, then it should be her decision to abort it or not. As soon as men can get pregnant and deal with carrying a child inside them for 9 months, then it will be appropriate for them to have a say in abortions. Otherwise, if a woman believes in abortions, then she should be able to get one, and if not, then she doesn't have to. I know that's my opinion, and I'm not trying to sound rude or force it upon others, but how hard is it for a bunch of grown men and women to realize that?

Anyways, what grinds my gear? The douche bag at my school who drives a black VW Golf (just a regular golf) and thinks he has the greatest car known to man and that he is better than EVERYONE. ****ing douche.

Tell you what...I didn't choose for that woman to have sex and get pregnant, nor for the man to have sex with her. So how about instead of myself and everyone else pay for it, they take responsibility for their own actions and either pay for the abortion themselves, raise the kid, or put it up for adoption? Why the hell should I or anyone else have to pay for someone else's good time and the consequences of such actions? I don't agree with abortion, but that is beside the point in this case. Even if I did agree with it, I still don't agree with having to pay for other people to have it done.

For example, I'm not going to buy you an FD just because you really want one. lol That's something you're going to have to buy for yourself. Or your parents can buy you one and they'll take the money from me. Oh wait, that's pretty much how it works already lol.

[kingtut]

In response to Speedjunkie, but directed at Learjet (in my best Vanilla Ice voice):

"Word to yo motha, boyee"

[erod550]

No. The big factor is the government CANNOT PAY FOR IT. Doesntmatter if it is womens services, Midnight Basketball, or social security, there is only so much money and we just cant pay for it. Nothing against those who want to have abortions, nothing against those who want to hang out in the parks, do drugs and play basketball while our tax dollars keeps the lights on, its just simply there is no money. Seriously, its not hard. The checkbook is empty. There is no other source of income. If the moeny frees up, great! Have all the abortions you want. Have a weekly planned parenthood town hall meeting for all I care, but until there is money to make it happen IT CANT EXIST. Nothing to debate because WE CANT AFFORD IT.

Damned, I think half the country slept through or skipped basic economics, and it is no wonder 90% of the US citizens cannot take care of themselves, they have no idea about how to live within thier means.

Wait, did you just say we shouldn't have a parks department? And if the reason was really because we don't have the money to pay for it, Republicans would be harping on more than just Planned Parenthood. Yet they're fine making huge tax cuts to rich people and large corporations which will reduce the amount of income the government gets. How can we do that if we already don't have enough money like you said?

[erod550]

And if we're really going to go the route of "I didn't make the decision to get pregnant so I shouldn't have to pay for an abortion," well, I didn't make the decision to get pregnant and pop out several kids yet 60% of my property taxes go to schools. Guess we should cut all of that funding too since I shouldn't have to pay for schools if I don't have kids, right?

[speedjunkie]

^Actually I personally would like that one, because I don't have kids LOL. But I'd rather pay for them to get an education and become a productive member of society rather than pay for them to be killed, just to have the same people make yet another baby I have to pay to kill, and another, and another, and another... So you're saying you think I SHOULD pay for abortions even though I didn't choose to be careless in my sexual activity? Have fun with that one buddy. You'll get a castration from me before you get a dollar. That's why I make it a rule to not sleep with anyone I don't see as a potential wife. I don't want to take the chance on getting them pregnant and being tethered to them for the rest of my life. I don't know what the hell I was thinking with the psycho lol. That was a one time thing lol.

And as far as tax cuts for the rich...how about we talk about GE, since they made billions of dollars and paid what in taxes? Oh that's right, ZERO. And who did they help get elected? Oh that's right. And who is now helping them. Oh, wait, I know.

As far as giving tax cuts to the rich, I don't know if I'd agree with giving them CUTS per se, but if you tax them enough, at some point they're going to take their business outside the US and then we won't get anything from them. You need rich people/CEOs to hire people, and if they are all overseas, who are they going to hire? Not Americans to move over there and work, that's for sure. You need rich people just like you need middle class and poor people, you just need rich people that aren't going to be so greedy, such as GE. I'm really liking Trump for the next President. Sure, he may be rich sometimes, and he may be broke, but he knows how to get back on his feet, and that's exactly what we need right now. I don't think anyone can disagree with that. But I'm sure you'll find a way Eric LOL.

And what's more important, having a pretty park, or putting food on the table? I guess you'd say park huh? I guess that will weed you out before too long then lol. Just like abortion...the highest percentage of kids that are getting aborted are obviously by people that believe in abortion. If that trend continues, at some point we won't have anyone that will believe in abortion because they will have killed off their descendants. If only it were that easy.

[erod550]

LOL, yes I do like to disagree. I wouldn't have a problem with Trump if it wasn't for all this crap he's bringing up again about Obama's place of birth. Hasn't that horse been beaten to death already? lol.

[JmJasky2]

I'd think that the presence of a "debt" is indicative enough of the inability to pay for something. If you can pay for it, you have no reason to be in debt. So, whether or not the repubs are harping on one point or many, the lack of money is clear.
I could be wrong, but I think the idea behind the tax cuts was to force the gov't to a point of having to downsize itself. Again, I could be wrong.
But in my mind it kind of makes sense. To make a drunk sober, first you have to take away the booze. Then they need to change their life. Stop going to bars, stop buying more booze. The correlation would be, with the extra income taken away, now the gov't must stop spending beyond their income and not increase taxes so that they can go back to their previous levels of spending. Assuming they will actually downsize. Our gov't has every done so willingly before though.

But like a family that has lived outside of their means, in order to get the national budget back under control, the gov't needs to cut all non-essentials out of their budget. I love the national park systems dearly, but those admittedly are a non-essential. I'm sure that they can go through their budget and find other non-essentials as well. Providing funding for a private, elective medical procedure seems like a non-essential too. A nice thing, but non-essential. Pay cuts to the legislature would be a good idea.

It's an interesting time in our nation's history, that is for sure.

[JmJasky2]

Yea...so I type slow...

[JmJasky2]

Back on topic...
Bought a used truck last week. This week, it threw a CEL. All codes pointed to needing to replace the crank sensor. Worst part was that it took 2 whole days for the dealership to call me back just to tell me they wouldn't be doing anything for me. No "we'll fix it for ya". No discounted repair. Nothing. Just a ridiculously long wait for nothing. I was a little bothered that they wouldn't even help out, cuz I'd only just taken the car off of their lot a few days earlier. But that they left me hanging for so long....that sucked.

I know, it wasn't that bad a repair, but it still grinds my gears.

[bellalyssa]

Being one of those "non-essentials" so I resent that :P

The abortion thing isn't about abortion. Planned Parenthood cannot use federal money to perform abortions, end of story. This is something that was decided years ago so the money for abortions comes from donations. They want to cut funding to womens programs that fund abortions, regardless of where the money comes from.

It's like the Postal Service. Technically, while being a federal agency, the postal service receives little to no funding from the federal government. They raise it themselves through stamp revenue and increased mailing revenue.

I still get to report to my duty station monday, but only to go through "shut down" procedures. This means locking up confidential files, changing voicemails etc. I can be here for 4 hours that day and get paid for it because there is a provision in federal funding that allows for such things. This however, doesn't mean I'll be guaranteed my paycheck on Friday (which is bullshit) or that I'll get money back.

While I agree the government needs to be cut down, it needs to be gradual and not sudden. Chances are if USDA's budget gets cut, my job is gone because I'm so low on the totem pole, no one gives a damn. If any of you know the government rating system, I'm a GS3... a pee on. Heaven forbid we cut Congress' paychecks or Senate paychecks. No, we get to cut government programs designed to help students through college.

I'd think that the presence of a "debt" is indicative enough of the inability to pay for something. If you can pay for it, you have no reason to be in debt. So, whether or not the repubs are harping on one point or many, the lack of money is clear.
I could be wrong, but I think the idea behind the tax cuts was to force the gov't to a point of having to downsize itself. Again, I could be wrong.
But in my mind it kind of makes sense. To make a drunk sober, first you have to take away the booze. Then they need to change their life. Stop going to bars, stop buying more booze. The correlation would be, with the extra income taken away, now the gov't must stop spending beyond their income and not increase taxes so that they can go back to their previous levels of spending. Assuming they will actually downsize. Our gov't has every done so willingly before though.

But like a family that has lived outside of their means, in order to get the national budget back under control, the gov't needs to cut all non-essentials out of their budget. I love the national park systems dearly, but those admittedly are a non-essential. I'm sure that they can go through their budget and find other non-essentials as well. Providing funding for a private, elective medical procedure seems like a non-essential too. A nice thing, but non-essential. Pay cuts to the legislature would be a good idea.

It's an interesting time in our nation's history, that is for sure.

[JmJasky2]

My apologies. I should have thought more carefully and inserted a statement that I don't mean to offend those who would be affected by a gov't budget cut. I got my paycheck from the gov't for a time while i was in college as well. And it would have sucked to have lost that. So I am sorry for your condition.

I agree that the cut should be gradual and that congressional and senatorial paychecks should be cut first. Next would be to eliminate those pensions. They are an outdated program that cannot be supported. After that, we would need to find other places to cut. And that is the hard part, because yes, making cuts affects the workers.

Hopefully we can avoid a shutdown and those in the legislature can form a budget that allows for gradual reduction in size over time.

[erod550]

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/04/planned-parenthood-abortion-government-shutdown-/1

Learned something new. No federal funds are used for abortions. I didn't know that was the case. So now the opposition to Planned Parenthood funding is even more boggling to me. The money they get from federal funding goes to things like breast exams and cervical cancer testing. The abortions are funded through private donations.

[bellalyssa]

^^ That's what makes it more ridiculous!