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Suspensions...

Postby Learjet45 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:14

Pardon the fact that I'm pretty much a complete dumbass when it comes to most stuff dealing with cars, but I've managed to confused myself a far bit today. Don't shoot me! :p


So basically, here's the deal. Can someone explain the difference between what a shock absorber, a spring, and a strut is and what each one does? I thought I had a general idea, but I just confused myself to no end today.
And question 2: I know some people end up going down the coilover road. What does a coilover replace from a stock suspension?
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Postby chickenwafer » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:14

Struts and shock absorbers are essentially the same thing in their function and design. The difference is a strut replaces some key suspension components because it can accept sideways loads across it's non-compression axis (i.e. they usually turn with wheel movement). Some people use the terms interchangeably but they really are different. Some cars will have front struts but rear shocks.

A coilover is exactly what it sound like- a coil (spring) over the shock body. Some suspension (such as the rear suspension on your 6) have the shock and spring mounted separately. A coilover has the shock with the spring coiling/mounted around it. This makes for a much more compact and effective design. A lot of OEM cars still utilize this design such as the RX-8 and RX-7, for example.

A spring is exactly what you think it is...a spring. The spring is what controls the ride quality (mostly) of the suspension and provides the major dampening. The stiffer the spring (usually measured in lbs/in or kg/in) the worse ride quality, typically. The measurement of lbs/in references how many lbs it takes to compress the spring one inch. So the higher the number, the stiffer the spring. Too soft and the car will experience heavy body roll. Too stiff and the cars suspension will not move, which can induce snap oversteer/understeer physics.

To summarize, the spring effects most "suspension" jobs, i.e. ride quality and handling, and the shock is there to dampen the spring oscillations, essentially to make everything smoother and to limit excessive suspension movement. That is the simplest way I can describe it, but really, shocks play a much bigger role.
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Postby memphis » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:14

are you asking cuz your thinking of lowering your car or are you just wondering what it all is about??

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Postby Learjet45 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:14

Mostly just curiosity. I don't think i will be lowering my 6 any time soon so that isn't really a concern for the time being.


Thanks for the info Chickenwafer! That's exactly what I wanted to know.
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Postby Number2 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:14

Chickenwafer nailed it. Cost effective would be just springs. Better would be shocks/springs. Best would be coilovers.
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Postby RX-7 Chris » Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:14

If you want to see some pics of the difference I can take pics of my car's. I hace struts on the front and shocks on the back.
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Postby RX-7 Chris » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:14

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1984 RX-7 GSL-SE [size=84]My restomod project[/SIZE]


1964 Ford Galaxie 500XL flat black w/ white interior, 2 dr fastback, 390 thunderbird, C6 auto, 2500 rpm high stall converter, shift kit, AC, Holley 750 cfm

[size=100]RIP 1983 RX-7[/SIZE]

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Postby ecam8000 » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:14

Hey Chris, is that the family Taurus wagon?
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Postby RX-7 Chris » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:14

haha I drove one of those in high school it was an '87.
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