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New to the Mazda world
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:14
by Just4fun
Hello,
I just picked up my first Mazda. A 2006 Speed6. I heard about this club from the dealer I bought the car from.
I have always been a Mustang guy but wanted a fun car for my driver.
So far the only complaint I have is the flat spot in the upper revs. How do I get rid of that?
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:14
by Huzer21
Welcome aboard! I thought about the Speed3/Speed6 before I ended up in my RX8. There are plenty of knowledgeable Speed6 guys here for you.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:14
by Just4fun
Thanks.
I also need to get rid of the sloppy shifter it comes with. Any help on that would be appreciated as well.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:14
by Ranger
Welcome! Not an MS6 owner myself, but I would say that unfortunately there is no easy way to get rid of a lack of torque at higher RPMs. You would need to do some serious tuning. The shifter however is an easier fix. There are several short shifter kits out there that will most likely improve the feel, but there's nothing out there that's going to make it feel like a Mustang.

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:14
by Colombia28
Welcome to the club and welcome to the "dead after 5500" club

In stock form the K04 turbo cant push enough air up top, a good tune will help out up top.
And then there is the shifter... lol. Shifter bushings are a great start to help firm up the feel, but a short shift would be best. A few people on here have short shifts on their MS6 and love'em. Hopefully they will chime in.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:14
by bobopud
The cheapest way to get rid of the flat spot is to shift before it. This engine was not designed to be a redliner like the honda civics and RX-8s of the world. Other then that you probably need a bigger turbo in order to hold boost higher in the rpm range, but that requires a lot of supporting mods.
Welcome by the way.
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:14
by RX-7 Chris
Welcome to the club
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:14
by bmwzoom
Welcome to the club... glad you joined us!

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:14
by thegreenthief
I had similar feelings about the Speed6 when I took it on a test drive about a year ago.
Then I settled on my RX-8 and I haven't been happier. =]
Welcome!
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:14
by firestoned
TWMperformance.com has the shifter you need, it comes in 2 stages, stage 1 is same heighth, shorter throw, and stage 2 is 30% shorter heighth w/ shorter throw. Definitely get the shifter base bushings also, they help alot..
Getting rid of the "flat spot" in this car can turn your mod list into a novel for sure, Id recommend getting an
engine management system first, then build from there.. I for one noticed a big improvement with the DN Performance turbo manifold, brought the car to life at higher rpm's. Also, consider freeing up SOME of the exhaust restriction. I say SOME because alot of speed owners have found if you completely remove all the backpressure, you may experience smoky turbo syndrome. A catted downpipe, such as the one
HERE, is a great option to consider. Other helpers are more obvious, like the intake, and bpv. Like I said, the list can keep going and going and going. Let me know if you need any help, or have any questions
Oh, and welcome to the club..
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:14
by Just4fun
Thanks all for the info. I will definietly look at ditching the notchy shifter for something more precise.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:14
by tbot
welcome to the club...and i couldn't offer any help to ur issues unfortunately since i have a mazda 3...with an auto none the less...
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:14
by iani1.1
welcome. didn't know the 6's get that dead spot at 5500rpm thought it would be at like 6200rpm or something higher. but +1 on the ems
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:14
by TheNewBlack
Welcome!
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:14
by Just4fun
I was thinking the flat spot came in around 5200 or so. It seems to just get past it and then runs out or revs.
All in good time I guess...