Anyone Here Have An Fd?
- RX-7 Chris
- Posts: 7800
- Joined: Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:14
- Location: Colorado Springs
- Contact:
Now you've done it. I am staying out of this one.
1984 RX-7 GSL-SE [size=84]My restomod project[/SIZE]
1964 Ford Galaxie 500XL flat black w/ white interior, 2 dr fastback, 390 thunderbird, C6 auto, 2500 rpm high stall converter, shift kit, AC, Holley 750 cfm
[size=100]RIP 1983 RX-7[/SIZE]
My Car Blog
-
Laurel
-
SpeedRacer
- Posts: 5030
- Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:14
- Location: Aurora
- Contact:
great... suspend yer account for a week i suppose let me know so i can be proactive on that 

Heavy duty adjustable dog leashes
http://www.TitanTuff.com
http://www.TitanTuff.com
The LS1 is be no means a downgrade in technology. That engine is sick. It's ok to love rotarys cuz I do too but there's more to the world than that. I think it was Huzer who said it best "Rotarys are by no means the zenith of engines."
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Mods:
Veilside D1-GT Body kit, Axailflow Short Shifter, Innovate LC-1 Wideband, Proshift Gauges, Greddy Turbo Kit w/ Cobb AccessPORT, TurboXS exhaust w/ race pipe, CarPC, Synapse BOV, AEM Intake
Mods:
Veilside D1-GT Body kit, Axailflow Short Shifter, Innovate LC-1 Wideband, Proshift Gauges, Greddy Turbo Kit w/ Cobb AccessPORT, TurboXS exhaust w/ race pipe, CarPC, Synapse BOV, AEM Intake
-
SpeedRacer
- Posts: 5030
- Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:14
- Location: Aurora
- Contact:
I'm wondering if she's disagreeing with the LS1 being a downgrade cuz I can prove that it's not at all. The LS series of engines is arguably the best production engine series to ever come out of America.
http://www.idavette.net/hib/ls1c.html
Read and learn
http://www.idavette.net/hib/ls1c.html
Read and learn

[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Mods:
Veilside D1-GT Body kit, Axailflow Short Shifter, Innovate LC-1 Wideband, Proshift Gauges, Greddy Turbo Kit w/ Cobb AccessPORT, TurboXS exhaust w/ race pipe, CarPC, Synapse BOV, AEM Intake
Mods:
Veilside D1-GT Body kit, Axailflow Short Shifter, Innovate LC-1 Wideband, Proshift Gauges, Greddy Turbo Kit w/ Cobb AccessPORT, TurboXS exhaust w/ race pipe, CarPC, Synapse BOV, AEM Intake
-
Laurel
Well... First off a rotary has very few main moving parts where as a simple piston engine has like thirty times that. Which everyone knows the fewer parts the less things that can go wrong. Secondly, a rotary engine basically moves in one continuous direction where a pistons engine changing directions at a very rapid pace which causes a ton of vibration which only leads to more things going wrong. Plus a rotor spins at like a third of the output shaft. which as everyone knows the rotor is the main part and moves way slower than pistons which will again make it more reliable. And that probably doesn't make much sense to anyone on here but i dont really care rotary engines are just too cool for school.
-
Laurel
wow. i'd rather you explain to me why it's so great than give me a link. Way to use google. If i were to go for a piston powered car i would get a 240z and put a L28et. which is a 2.8 turbo out of a 82 280zx which is way cooler than any v8 and will spank the crap out of most of them. and they're really cheap and easy to find. so =P
- goldrocket
- Posts: 857
- Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:14
- Location: Colorado Springs
- Contact:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (speedjunkie @ Jan 16 2008, 02:17 PM) [url=index.php?act=findpost&pid=18544]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div>
I won't argue that the LS1 is a great engine or not, because it is. Period. But, it weighs in at 434 lbs installed. I can pick up my 13b by myself, with a flywheel on it, that's how I got it on the engine stand before throwing it in the car. So I'm going to venture to say it's a lot less the 300 lbs. Add in the alternator and carbs plus and oil filter and it might weigh in near 300, maybe, but I doubt it. My best guess is 200 lbs, but I did not put it on a scale. The LS1 block bare weighs 170 with no parts. Plus you all forgot to factor in reciprocating mass. That has more effect than static weight will. Ask any motorcylce mechanic or racer. Laurel brings upp a valid point, three moving parts and no valve train. But comparing the LS-1 boinger to a rotary is apples to oranges. I love winging mine to 9500 RPM, and i love the way it pulls like it's boosted above 5500. On the other hand, the raw, sexy torque of an american V8 is another animal all together. I am not a fan of V8 swaps in FDs because the rotary is part of the sex appeal of the car. But I understand the accomplishment of making the swap. So I guess I would just have to say it comes down to performance per dollar and in that catagory, the rotary wins hands down. I paid $3000 shipped to have my engine rebuilt and ported. It's a stage 4 from Rotary Warehouse and I am more than pleased wirth the performance. It was built so I can turbo or bottle it in the future. I had a 69 camaro 13 years ago with a 330 hp 327 that engine cost 5K to build, and that was just machining and parts. If I had paid for that engine it would have been 10K. I have a total of 7k in my RX-7 including buying the car.
Actually it doesn't. The LS1 only weighs about 70 lbs more than the 13B IIRC, maybe not even that much. My buddy did the swap and that thing drives great still. He still goes with us on backroad spirited drives and it's awesome. I've driven it a couple times and hope to do the swap to another FD someday. I won't do it to my current FD because I'd feel like I was turning my back on the rotary and that will NEVER happen, but I hope to get a rolling chassis and put in an LS1.
I was driving down the highway and went to pass someone in 6th gear at around 2-3k RPMs, I didn't even have to downshift...just put my foot in it and moved.[/b]
I won't argue that the LS1 is a great engine or not, because it is. Period. But, it weighs in at 434 lbs installed. I can pick up my 13b by myself, with a flywheel on it, that's how I got it on the engine stand before throwing it in the car. So I'm going to venture to say it's a lot less the 300 lbs. Add in the alternator and carbs plus and oil filter and it might weigh in near 300, maybe, but I doubt it. My best guess is 200 lbs, but I did not put it on a scale. The LS1 block bare weighs 170 with no parts. Plus you all forgot to factor in reciprocating mass. That has more effect than static weight will. Ask any motorcylce mechanic or racer. Laurel brings upp a valid point, three moving parts and no valve train. But comparing the LS-1 boinger to a rotary is apples to oranges. I love winging mine to 9500 RPM, and i love the way it pulls like it's boosted above 5500. On the other hand, the raw, sexy torque of an american V8 is another animal all together. I am not a fan of V8 swaps in FDs because the rotary is part of the sex appeal of the car. But I understand the accomplishment of making the swap. So I guess I would just have to say it comes down to performance per dollar and in that catagory, the rotary wins hands down. I paid $3000 shipped to have my engine rebuilt and ported. It's a stage 4 from Rotary Warehouse and I am more than pleased wirth the performance. It was built so I can turbo or bottle it in the future. I had a 69 camaro 13 years ago with a 330 hp 327 that engine cost 5K to build, and that was just machining and parts. If I had paid for that engine it would have been 10K. I have a total of 7k in my RX-7 including buying the car.
Al says
Anything worth doing is worth overdoing!:eek:

Anything worth doing is worth overdoing!:eek:

-
SpeedRacer
- Posts: 5030
- Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:14
- Location: Aurora
- Contact:
- RX-7 Chris
- Posts: 7800
- Joined: Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:14
- Location: Colorado Springs
- Contact:
as the world turns
1984 RX-7 GSL-SE [size=84]My restomod project[/SIZE]
1964 Ford Galaxie 500XL flat black w/ white interior, 2 dr fastback, 390 thunderbird, C6 auto, 2500 rpm high stall converter, shift kit, AC, Holley 750 cfm
[size=100]RIP 1983 RX-7[/SIZE]
My Car Blog
-
SpeedRacer
- Posts: 5030
- Joined: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:14
- Location: Aurora
- Contact:
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 69 guests