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HPR, PPIR, Bandimere, and other track events
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Postby No-Coast-Punk » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:14

Helmets need to be no more than 10 years old. That means Snell 95 is out. You need a snell 2000 or newer. HELMETS MUST HAVE A SNELL RATING.

If you are going to buy a helmet, get one with an SA rating. SA rated helmets have flame retardants and are designed for multiple impacts (such as your head bouncing off the interior of a car several times). Snell M helmets are a 1 time use only thing for motorcycles. At an event like this I will typically let a snell M rating slide. But in a serious racing situation an SA rated helmet is mandatory.

The CSP events are pretty laid back. Roll bars shouldn't be needed. I'm still talking with the powers that be.

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Postby MazdaTom » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:14

Do you have a link to the site? maybe with a map and location of the track?

I should be able to scare up at least 2 more names from work. But I think we need to advertize this to other communities as soon as we get more concrete definition on what/when/how much.
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Postby RedRoadster » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:14

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Helmets need to be no more than 10 years old. That means Snell 95 is out. You need a snell 2000 or newer. HELMETS MUST HAVE A SNELL RATING.

If you are going to buy a helmet, get one with an SA rating. SA rated helmets have flame retardants and are designed for multiple impacts (such as your head bouncing off the interior of a car several times). Snell M helmets are a 1 time use only thing for motorcycles. At an event like this I will typically let a snell M rating slide. But in a serious racing situation an SA rated helmet is mandatory.

The CSP events are pretty laid back. Roll bars shouldn't be needed. I'm still talking with the powers that be.[/b]


Is that backwards? I thought M's were multiple impact, but not fire retardant?
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Postby MazdaTom » Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:14

No. An M rating is to be used once- like when you fall off a motorcycle and crack your noggin on the road. There is really only one primary impact in a motorcycle wreck- the rest is just road rash. In a tumbling car, you and your helmet can strike the roll bar several times- each with about the same severity as the last. But that's not to say that if you get in a wreck with an SA helmet and you know it's struck the roll bar that the helmet can be used again.
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Postby No-Coast-Punk » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:14

There isn't really a site for the track per se. It's a private deal owned by the state patrol.

Years ago one of our buddies had the keys and a few us would go play on weekends.

After doing this a few times we got legit. and lined up insurance and NASA oversight.

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39....mp;t=h&z=17

Here is a sat. photo of what the track looks like. The layout is pretty simple, but has some interesting points. There are a few slight elevation changes that can ruin your day if you aren't paying attention. I watched a guy total an M3 with less than 5,000 on the clock over that long sweeper in the upper left corner. At 120+mph most cars WILL get all 4 wheels off the ground on the front straight (the one that is on the left of that picture) coming into the corner entry for the sweeper. Novices can also have a really hard time finding the right line through the double apex on the right side.

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Postby SpeedRacer » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:14

scary...
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Postby No-Coast-Punk » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:14

It really is a very easy and tame track if you stick within your limits and don't behave like an asshat. Remember, it's designed to train complete novices to hustle a car around at the bleeding limit. But it has a few scary things that can really test an experienced driver as well.

It takes some very serious power to hit 120+ on that straight too.

The dude who totaled the E46 M3 was a complete dunce with enormous penis enhancement issues. Was being tailed by an extremely fast Subaru piloted by a very superior driver. Rather than simply admitting he had purchased the biggest piece of shit M car BMW has ever made, and moving over to let the Subaru pass, he tried to block the Subaru for a half dozen laps. He finally carried way too much speed into that long sweeper and punted the car off into the weeds at about 120.

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Postby MazdaTom » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:14

It's funny you mentioned the BMW rolling. Of the few cars I've seen damaged at the track (probably 6 or so), most of those were BMW's and ALL of the BMWs rolled.
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Postby SpeedRacer » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:14

Phew as long as all of them are BMW's im safe :P
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Postby No-Coast-Punk » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:14

This one didn't roll... it just annihilated the front/rear subframes and suspension and tweaked the chassis a bit...

The damage to the car didn't look too bad.... but you can't exactly un-twist a BMW chassis.

BMW owners on the whole aren't too bad (hell, my daily is a '95 540i) but some of them take the "ultimate driving machine" thing a wee too far.

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Postby RX-7drifter » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:14

wow sounds like bmw's m cars are worthless or just the drivers of them


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Postby DemonOfTheFall » Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:14

Woo add my to the list, especially if its going to be $100 or less I am all over that.
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Postby Nick Leone » Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:14

I'll go depending on what day it is!

1. MazdaTom - Tom
2. Huzer21 - Tim
3. SpeedRacer - Asshat
4. Rx8ghost - Rob
5. Greek8 - Jimmy
6. Drifter - Chris
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Postby cprtrainer » Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:14

Mee 2!

1. MazdaTom - Tom
2. Huzer21 - Tim
3. SpeedRacer - Asshat
4. Rx8ghost - Rob
5. Greek8 - Jimmy
6. Drifter - Chris
7. Gold Rocket - That one guy
8. Nick Leone - Nick
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Postby RX-7drifter » Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:14

when do we plan to do this again
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