Can I boost my 2.3?

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Can I boost my 2.3?

Postby MazdaNoSpeed3 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:14

I want to boost and I'm wondering if I can do it stock on 8 psi or if I'll have to build. I'm new to Mazda and can't find shit on the internet. I don't even know what kinda engine I have I can't find a engine code I'm just lost.

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Postby Shadowden » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:14

What do you mean by what kind of engine?

Seems from the description of your thread you have the first gen 2.3L Mazda engine. I never boosted an MZ3 (or any car), but it seems like 8psi is pretty low boost and the engine is not high compression, so you would probably be okay on a stock engine. But if you are like most people, you will keep cranking up boost and will eventually either need to rebuild the engine proactively, or detonate the engine and rebuild it then.

Maybe this will help?
http://www.mazda3forums.com/showthread.php?t=400303

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Postby erod550 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:14

Can you? Sure, you can boost anything.

Should you? Probably not. Much better off just trading the car for an MS3.
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Postby Learjet45 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:14

Sure it's possible. I know it's been done on a Mazda 6 with the same 2.3 engine.

Looks like there is a ready made kit for it these days. http://www.turbokits.com/Mazda/Mazda3/Turbo_Kits/TSI_Extreme_Turbo_Kit/1958/

Some people opt for buying used parts from Speed3 setups since it can save a bit of money.

As a word of caution, like erod said, you can boost anything. It's almost guaranteed to decrease the life of your car though.

If it's an option, again as erod said, you might want to consider trading for a Speed3. They can be found for ~10-11k now with higher miles, or a bit more with lower miles. You'd want to try to find one that wasn't modded and has a good service history available. Otherwise, you'll be risking going zoom-zoom-boom.
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Postby Mortose » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:14

Another vote for NOT boosting it.

trade in for something boosted like speed3, WRX, STi, Evo, ect.

You will have alot more fun on a platform that is already setup for it.

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Postby OrangeVirus » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:14

Tri-point engineering makes a turbo kit for the 2.3L, off the shelf, with a tune. 240/240 on 7psi.

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Postby MazdaNoSpeed3 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:14

What's the difference between my 2.3 and a speed 3s? Besides the fact of it coming boosted?

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Postby MazdaNoSpeed3 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:14

OrangeVirus wrote:Tri-point engineering makes a turbo kit for the 2.3L, off the shelf, with a tune. 240/240 on 7psi.


Where can I find that.

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Postby Learjet45 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:14

Google is your friend.

http://tripointengineering.com/product_info.php?products_id=2119&osCsid=c7096f536053c04164eb1f6cedd0dff7

You're looking at upwards of $5,000 to purchase the kit and have it installed. There's a chance you'd also need a tune too. Regardless of what tune they provide, there's no guarantees that it will be a good tune in Colorado at such a high altitude.

You're honestly better off taking that 5 grand you'd spend, selling your car, and buying a Mazdaspeed3. Mazda put in the time and work to develop the engine to handle boost. It'll drive better too. And it would be much more easily modified to get more power.
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Postby OrangeVirus » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:14

difference between the speed 3 2.3 and NA 2.3 is practically everything.

The crank, rods, pistons, head, are all different fueling system is different, Pretty sure the block is too,
?

also if you put together a turbo kit using speed3 parts, which work pretty well on the 2.3, you could make some good results quite cheap. only thing you need is a good tune

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Postby Mortose » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:14

MazdaNoSpeed3 wrote:What's the difference between my 2.3 and a speed 3s? Besides the fact of it coming boosted?


The speed3 motor is a direct injection platform with a different head, pistons, rods, and pretty much everything is different. Lol. The only thing it really shares is the displacement. But like virus said, the manifold will mate up to the 2.3 n/A head.

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Postby MazdaNoSpeed3 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:14

Can I swap a speed3 engine into my 04 Mazda 3?

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Postby OrangeVirus » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:14

MazdaNoSpeed3 wrote:Can I swap a speed3 engine into my 04 Mazda 3?


you could, but you need a lot more.

engine, trans, fuel system, wiring harness, ecu, and more

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Postby Learjet45 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:14

MazdaNoSpeed3 wrote:Can I swap a speed3 engine into my 04 Mazda 3?


You'd end up paying more to buy and swap in a Speed3 engine than you would spend selling your car and buying a Speed3.

There's a LOT of differences between the regular 3 and Speed3 beyond just the engine. Seriously, you're better off buying a Speed3.
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