MSP gets a new cylinder head.

vierte · Postby **vierte** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:14

Finally got a new set of pistons from wiseco. Took about 3 weeks but they covered them u der warranty. If you are going to build an engi e, i would use wiseco. Great customer service... and these things look great!

vierte · Postby **vierte** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:14

Who doesn't love black wrinkle coat?

anywereiroam · Postby **anywereiroam** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:14

Ah tha manifold looks awesome! I just put mine in today
I shouldve done that, looking at all this really makes me wana
Build my protege to!

vierte · Postby **vierte** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:14

Doooooo it! Thanks. It turned out nice. The valve cover has hammertone on it now so it looks like im going to strip it down and wrinkle coat it too. Going to be a lot of black up top tho..

So I was excited to jam this thing together this weekend but wiseco sent me standard bore pistons even tho all the paper work says .0020 oversized like it should be. Looks like shes going to be down for a bit longer

anywereiroam · Postby **anywereiroam** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:14

I get enough torque steer as it is lol and I wana be able to take corners
Without the car wanting to.keep.going straight lol

vierte · Postby **vierte** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:14

Lol just use the gas ledal to turn! More gas - go strait, less gas - turn!

Hows that thing running? Youu still having transmission trouble?

anywereiroam · Postby **anywereiroam** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:14

I got a new trans for it, its running awesome, you can tell
Though that it needs some sort of tune since you can feel a slight hesitation
Under boost, its just to bad the car looks like a.normal protege

vierte · Postby **vierte** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:14

Lol. Yea I dont trust the stock ecu as far as I can throw it. The stock ecu broke 3 motors before I got the msp. Fixed the tod bending with some forged rods and a megasquirt. If I were you.. I would be looking at a megasquirt. You can build one between $200-300.. it's about the cheapest standalone ecu youll find.

anywereiroam · Postby **anywereiroam** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:14

I know its not build related but I put had the car on a dyno
just so I can get some actual numbers and the car put down
219hp and 225tq sad part is I had 85 octane in it and the car is not tuned, I know its not a lot at all but compared to before this car has come along way, 12k on the turbo kit and its still going strong and still get great gas mileage, its so tempting to build the spare motor I have but im happy with what its making now, but then again I think what if I can have a 300 at the wheel? and reliable! but then again I already get horrible torque steer from 2nd to 3rd gear already and broke to motor mounts lol . For now I think im leaving it as it is so I can drive it through winter and foucus on the stang or bmw build, but come summer I am def going to build that spare motor, this car is def better then an srt4, cobalt, Hondas and stock msp3's!

Number2 · Postby **Number2** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:14

anywereiroam wrote:this car is def better then an srt4, cobalt, Hondas and stock msp3's!

Is it though?

vierte · Postby **vierte** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:14

About the same power as a stock MS3 and about 600lbs lighter.. I think the protege might just be a little quicker

Those numbers aren't bad at all. What turbo are you running on that thing?

anywereiroam · Postby **anywereiroam** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:14

The weight is def the deal killer between my love for the protege and.the msp3
I forgot the wheel diameter but I just know.its alil t3 aireasearch turbo,
I'd say not.bad for a full turbo.kit I got for 500:)

vierte · Postby **vierte** » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:14

Are they all supposed to be up at the same time???

Just kidding. Bottom end is assembled. Cylinder head tomorrow and then time to jam this thing into the car. The rod bearings were a little loose and have me concerned but my machine shop assures me that its not a problem. Might run a heavier weight oil just for good measure.

Number2 · Postby **Number2** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:14

vierte wrote:About the same power as a stock MS3 and about 600lbs lighter.. I think the protege might just be a little quicker

A stock MS3 puts 245-260 lb-ft torque to the wheels, depending on who you ask.

According to edmunds.com
The Protegeweighs in at 2843 lbs curb weight
The MS3weighs in at 3153 lbs curb weight.
Difference of 310 lbs.

Good work on the Speed Protege btw. Looks good.

vierte · Postby **vierte** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:14

I'm not sold lol. You can find stock MS3 dynos with SAE correction factors that put the power around 235whp. That could be a closer match up than it sounds.. would be interesting to see.

Number2 wrote:Good work on the Speed Protege btw. Looks good.

Thanks, it's finally coming together. Wouldn't have got the cylinder head on tonight if it weren't for Alex dropping off some dowels tho.

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